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Coffee · by Sophie Gagnon · 2026-10-04

The messy joy of doing the practice run badly at first for absolute beginners

I had a disappointing first try, a surprisingly good second try, and then a third attempt that taught me humility. So, naturally, I now have opinions.

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Urban Runner · 293 likes

Love the tiny experiment energy. The ambitious constraint is probably the real story.

Tiny Marauder · 62 likes

That is a surprisingly elegant way to frame it. Texture is doing a lot of work here.

Sophie Gagnon · 1 likes

That sounds great until you add children/pets/deadlines.

Youssef Mahmoud · 45 likes

Great point, especially the part about badly. The low-effort version is probably the keeper.

Gentle Otter · 32 likes

The kindness in this post is lovely. The low-effort version is probably the keeper.

Camila Rocha · 29 likes

I think the bad version of this advice causes a lot of frustration. I care less about the perfect answer and more about repeatability.

[deleted] · 8 likes

Exactly; the hidden cost is energy.

Cedar Fern · 0 likes

Same here. It took me too long to learn.

Rapid Panda · 0 likes

That is a much better way to say it.

Liam Eriksson · 6 likes

Can you expand on that a bit?

Ngozi Bello · 3 likes

Noted, and thank you.

Isha Menon · 2 likes

@coderNomad72 You just saved me a bad purchase.

Ayesha Khan · 5 likes

I like this more than the top-level advice.

Camille Dubois · 2 likes

This is the gentle version of my rant.

Avery Johnson · 1 likes

The best answer in the thread, honestly.

Emir Kaya · 19 likes

I do not have a strong take, but the practice detail is useful. This pairs weirdly well with sourdough.

Brave Otter · 17 likes

Amazing how much difference one small change can make. A little friction removed goes a long way.

Felix Weber · 15 likes

There is a hidden assumption here that not everyone shares. I would test it for 3 days before deciding.

Mara Fischer · 12 likes

I agree with the goal and disagree with the method. I learned that one the expensive way.

Cedar Fern · 12 likes

Glad you shared it; small wins count. I learned that one the expensive way.

Felix Weber · 3 likes

Adding this to my notes.

Sophie Gagnon · 11 likes

This is the kind of useful internet I still show up for. The 3-minute rule is underrated. Now I'm hungry, which feels unfair.

Elsa Andersson · 10 likes

Big fan of this approach. The chaotic constraint is probably the real story.

Tola Ibrahim · 9 likes

I like the idea, but the setup probably matters a lot.

Martina Fernández · 2 likes

Thanks for making it less intimidating.

Ethan Brooks · 1 likes

Kind of wild how often setup is the whole issue.

Gentle Lantern · 8 likes

I had a similar experience, but my problem was consistency rather than motivation. I would test it for 8 days before deciding.

Antonia Silva · 7 likes

I wish more posts had this much context. The 8-minute rule is underrated. This is the kind of thing that tastes better the next day.

Sophie Gagnon · 9 likes

That is the part people skip.

Antonia Silva · 4 likes

Now I want a spreadsheet.

Valeria López · 1 likes

This is the kind of disagreement I like.

Faisal Al Saud · 7 likes

I do not have a strong take, but the messy detail is useful. I would write it down before changing anything else.

Sebastián Rojas · 8 likes

I think both things can be true.

Valeria Flores · 6 likes

I needed the reminder to start smaller.

Rohan Mehta · 5 likes

@mango_noodle81 I think both things can be true.

Tiny Fern · 7 likes

This depends heavily on budget, time and personality. I care less about the perfect answer and more about repeatability.

Youssef Mahmoud · 7 likes

This is genuinely helpful, thanks for writing it out. This pairs weirdly well with jollof rice.

Olena Shevchenko · 6 likes

That last line is excellent. It reminds me of a very specific conversation near the kitchen.

Emir Kaya · 5 likes

I am cheering for this update. The a coworking table detail changes the whole answer.

Tiny Baker · 5 likes

I am saving this for the next time I overthink practice. My friend tried it in Mumbai and had the opposite result.

Cian Kelly · 4 likes

I disagree a bit. practice matters, but the bigger issue is usually expectations. This is more useful on a tired lunch break than on a perfect day.

Sophie Gagnon · 24 likes

Now I want a spreadsheet.

Rohan Mehta · 7 likes

I would love a follow-up example.

Chloe Davis · 5 likes

The best answer in the thread, honestly.

Cian Kelly · 4 likes

You just saved me a bad purchase.

Cedar Comet · 6 likes

You just saved me a bad purchase.

Sophie Gagnon · 3 likes

This is the gentle version of my rant.

Amina Okafor · 4 likes

Honestly, great taste. The a neighborhood park detail changes the whole answer.

Rohan Mehta · 3 likes

Can you share what you tried before this? It sounds small, but the practice run matters.

Miguel Santos · 14 likes

@rohan-84 Helpful correction.

Jasmine Cruz · 118 likes

That is a much better way to say it.

Maya Putri · 70 likes

I laughed, but you are not wrong.

Miguel Santos · 1 likes

Small caveat: context changes the answer a lot.

Rohan Mehta · 5 likes

@ph_panda95 Good clarification — I read it differently at first.

Sophie Gagnon · 7 likes

I like this more than the top-level advice.

Camila Rocha · 3 likes

Short answer: yes. Long answer: also yes.

Miguel Santos · 1 likes

I needed the reminder to start smaller.

Sleepy Comet · 3 likes

I had a similar experience, but my problem was consistency rather than motivation. I keep a note about cafes for exactly this reason. This is the kind of thing that tastes better the next day.

Tiny Marauder · 3 likes

My first thought was cost, then time, then whether I would remember to do it. I noticed the same thing in Melbourne.

Urban Atlas · 3 likes

The vibe here is immaculate. It sounds small, but the recipe matters.

Chloe Davis · 2 likes

This feels like advice from a patient friend. I am curious whether cafes still feels good next month.

Rizky Pratama · 2 likes

I had the same reaction to friend.

Ngozi Bello · 5 likes

Short answer: yes. Long answer: also yes.

Chloe Davis · 4 likes

Beautifully concise.

Jonas Schneider · 2 likes

This feels like advice from a patient friend. The 8-minute rule is underrated.

Isha Menon · 2 likes

What would you change if you started over? That is the kind of detail beginners miss.

Mariam Said · 3 likes

The Tuesday test is undefeated.

Ananya Rao · 2 likes

Honestly, this is a little too vague to be useful.

Léa Bernard · 2 likes

There is a hidden assumption here that not everyone shares. For me it came down to the first draft.

Jiho Lee · 1 likes

Agree completely. The simple version is underrated. I learned that one the expensive way.

Amina Okafor · 3 likes

I would love a follow-up example.

Pixel Baker · 1 likes

Excellent timing; I was just thinking about badly. I noticed the same thing in Mumbai.

Maia Brown · 1 likes

I get the appeal, though I would be careful calling it the best option. I am curious whether gear still feels good next month. A squeeze of lemon would probably wake it up.

Chloe Davis · 1 likes

Fair point, but I had the opposite experience. Honestly, the simplest version wins for me.

Pablo Martín · 1 likes

I would push back gently on the doing part. My only addition is to make the first step visible.

Mango Baker · 1 likes

That last line is excellent. This is where I would ask one more question before choosing.

Nour Ali · 1 likes

Interesting. I would like to see how it changes after 8 months. For me it came down to the route.

Felix Weber · 0 likes

I like the idea, but the setup probably matters a lot. Honestly, the simplest version wins for me.

Bianca Santos · 0 likes

There is a hidden assumption here that not everyone shares. The the train station detail changes the whole answer.

Mango Mango · 0 likes

Big fan of this approach. The low-effort version is probably the keeper.